Date: Wednesday, December 12th, 2007 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sushidog.livejournal.com
I Often Dream of Trains, Robyn Hitchcock (covered by Firewater).

It's only since my self-diagnosis of mild SAD that I've found out that my grandfather always knew lighting-up time, to the minute, every day throughout Winter, and he counted down the days to the solstice (although not for religious reasons!).

Date: Wednesday, December 12th, 2007 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
On the basis of 'know thine enemy', it's useful information to have. Mine is usually sunrise, in that getting up before it is quite unpleasant. (It'll be a while before I leave werk in daylight -- er, apart from the whole leaving-werk thing -- but on lie-in days I could be rising after dawn by early Feb.

Boo to winter. Except pretty frost etc.

Date: Wednesday, December 12th, 2007 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymoonray.livejournal.com
Your comment has made me remember that my Dad counted down to the shortest day as well. When I was a kid I never understood why, but I certainly do now.

Date: Wednesday, December 12th, 2007 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darth-tigger.livejournal.com
Ha, we're getting sunset three minutes before you. Take that, London!

Date: Wednesday, December 12th, 2007 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
aha, the Frozen North! Six months of night! Does that start at Watford, or is it the Scottish border?

Date: Wednesday, December 12th, 2007 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] p0wdermonkey.livejournal.com
"It's not a cormorant; it's not a shag. It's only something in a plastic bag."
Let's hope I never find a post to go with that quote.

Date: Wednesday, December 12th, 2007 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
I've had quite a few somethings in plastic bags ... hmm, must add you to my dating filter :)

Date: Wednesday, December 12th, 2007 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
also, v. impressed that you know other Hitchcock songs!

Date: Wednesday, December 12th, 2007 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] woolymonkey.livejournal.com
Spooky isn't it? I have a whole bunch of Hitchcocks on vinyl. Must do something about transferring them to something more playable.

Date: Wednesday, December 12th, 2007 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drasecretcampus.livejournal.com
Why did I think 21 December was the shortest day? Or is that the solstice? Confused...

Date: Wednesday, December 12th, 2007 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
The solstice (22nd Dec this year) is the shortest day ... the mornings are still drawing in.

Date: Wednesday, December 12th, 2007 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drasecretcampus.livejournal.com
Ah - misread the table. And winter officially begins on the 23rd. So it's not officially cold yet.

Date: Wednesday, December 12th, 2007 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] major-clanger.livejournal.com
The winter solstice is the shortest day overall, but 'latest sunrise' and 'earliest sunset' usually occur a few days either side of it because of the Earth's slightly elliptical orbit around the Sun. (This is the same reason that sundials run a few minutes slow or fast throughout the year.)

Date: Wednesday, December 12th, 2007 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pennski.livejournal.com
Oh wow I never knew that! In fact looking at the table was the first I knew that it didn't automatically happen around the shortest day.

Ah well, we're nearly there...

Date: Wednesday, December 12th, 2007 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marypcb.livejournal.com
if you had a clepsydra... it would be frozen

just reading the water clock description in David Wishart Last Rites - it has ducks that you turn to adjust the length of the hour as the year turns.

It is dark and cold and *night* here *already*. bah.

Date: Wednesday, December 12th, 2007 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] major-clanger.livejournal.com
Sunlight-soaked southerner! Up here latest sunset is 3.38, and for the week between Xmas and New Year (sorry, Hogmanay) it rises at quarter to nine.

Date: Wednesday, December 12th, 2007 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
are there polar bears?

Date: Wednesday, December 12th, 2007 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymoonray.livejournal.com
latest sunset is 3.38

Eek! That must be (even more) depressing.

Date: Wednesday, December 12th, 2007 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymoonray.livejournal.com
Remind me to talk to you about solstice-celebrating tomorrow. I was thinking along the lines of a country walk (subject to weather), followed by feasting of some description :)

Date: Wednesday, December 12th, 2007 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
My thoughts almost exactly! If it's nice weather like today, it'd be so good to get outdoors. If it's grey and slanty and wet like the weekend, I moot we skip straight to the feasting!

Date: Wednesday, December 12th, 2007 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymoonray.livejournal.com
Good plan, I like that one :)

Date: Thursday, December 13th, 2007 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fishlifter.livejournal.com
I always feel a little bit sad when this happens. I am affected by a different season...

It's really remarkable we manage to find places to co-exist, isn't it?

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