Then and Now

Thursday, July 28th, 2005 09:44 pm
[personal profile] tamaranth

Then

Now

Twelve trains to Central London every hour (+ DLR)

Two trains to Central London every hour

Five rooms

Seventeen rooms

Looking at the pretty colours of the evening smog

Watching the stars come out from the football pitch lawn

Scaly carnivore, singular

Furry carnivores, plural

Virgin phone signal

No Virgin phone signal (Vodafone connection real soon now)

Bored teenagers on mini-scooters / yelling at each other

Birdsong

2500 books

About 1000 books (the rest are in the loft or headed/heading for new shelves)

straggly pot-plants

verdant vegetation

a river running past

a river running past (rainy days only, end of the road)

pikey high-street chain stores

nice mix of independent shops and chains

Maritime Greenwich, 20 mins walk

Brighton (2 trains an hour)

tumuli

South Downs

Bookshops that stay open until 11

Amazon

muggings

strangers who say 'good morning' and smile

Date: Thursday, July 28th, 2005 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] major-clanger.livejournal.com
Sounds like an overall improvement :-)

(And I think you were being very charitable about the 'river' at your old place...)

MC

Date: Friday, July 29th, 2005 08:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
It is so a river! It's the Ravensbourne, and it's tidal up to Brookmill Park (I surveyed it). So there!

Date: Friday, July 29th, 2005 09:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zoo-music-girl.livejournal.com
I always thought that was the Quaggy River round the back of your flat. I love that name!

Date: Friday, July 29th, 2005 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
nah, the Quaggy joins the Ravensbourne at Lewisham station (which is probably a wonderfully rich archaeological site and shows signs of reverting to savagery most evenings). I was surprised at how far up it's tidal: you can walk through Brookmill Park and see the slack water where tide meets current, on a rising tide.

Date: Friday, July 29th, 2005 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zoo-music-girl.livejournal.com
I had a look at a map after I posted and I can see where it joins. Amazing that it's tidal so far up from the sea and the Thames!

Date: Friday, July 29th, 2005 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
The Thames is so strongly tidal (and tidal further inland than it used to be -- now the tide goes as far as Teddington, but apparently only to Putney in Viking times) that I suspect most of its tributaries -- such as Deptford Creek, into which the Ravensbourne flows at Deptford Bridge -- are tidal simply by having Thames water forced into them. At a rough estimate, I'd say the Ravensbourne's tidal limit is about a mile to a mile and a half from the Thames -- and some of that's culverted, which forces the water further and faster in both directions.

Date: Friday, July 29th, 2005 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moral-vacuum.livejournal.com
Although the proper name, IIRC, is the Kydbrooke.

Date: Friday, July 29th, 2005 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zoo-music-girl.livejournal.com
Gosh, it's got a Wikipedia entry! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Quaggy

The article for the Ravensbourne river says the Quaggy is known as Kyd Brook for part of its route. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Ravensbourne

Date: Friday, July 29th, 2005 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moral-vacuum.livejournal.com
Good save on the punctuation!

Date: Friday, July 29th, 2005 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] major-clanger.livejournal.com
The trouble is I have prejudices about rivers, mostly involving grassy banks, overhanging willows and ducklings. Which is silly, as of course I think of the Thames as a river, and by extension its tributaries.

Spent too long in rural Hampshire, I have...

MC

Date: Friday, July 29th, 2005 04:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pecos.livejournal.com
You carry the ability to be happy no matter where you are, but it's a hell of a lot easier to pull the whole thing off if you're not being mugged and smogged and smothered, ya know?

Can I still come visit some time?

Date: Friday, July 29th, 2005 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
sometimes being happy can be very hard work: I don't think that'll be the case here. And yes, please do visit!

Date: Friday, July 29th, 2005 06:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madcatwoman.livejournal.com
On the whole, I think you're on a winner there!

Date: Friday, July 29th, 2005 08:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] margotmetroland.livejournal.com
Sounds fabulous and we're not jealous at all, oh no!

Date: Friday, July 29th, 2005 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
that's all right then! After all, Brixton is so lovely in the summer. And at least you have a Major Rock Venue. We have Martletts Hall (featuring Ralph McTell in November).

Date: Friday, July 29th, 2005 09:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elinor.livejournal.com
I take it the screaming kids adorable youngsters have gone, then?

Glad the new surroundings are all round more peaceful and relaxing. [livejournal.com profile] tanais and I may be down in Brighton at some time in the not too distant - is that close enough to you to visit / meet up?

Date: Friday, July 29th, 2005 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
Yes, R and children left on Tuesday,it's lovely and quiet!

Do let me know when you're in Brighton -- we could meet up down there or go somewhere scenic (or of course you could come here if weather isn't up to much).

Date: Friday, July 29th, 2005 09:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lamentables.livejournal.com
Unsurprisingly, I'd take Now over Then any day. Enjoy it!

Date: Friday, July 29th, 2005 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
There's a lot I'll probably miss, once I get around to it (South Bank concerts without major transport planning, huge bookshops, street theatre, Greenwich remainder shops). But there's a lot here that I was missing in London. I have a year, after all, to see how it balances out ...

Date: Friday, July 29th, 2005 11:26 am (UTC)

Date: Friday, July 29th, 2005 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
it is full of zombies, too. But not violent ones as in Lewisham.

Date: Friday, July 29th, 2005 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] techno-fear.livejournal.com
It took me a while to get used to strangers who say Good Morning and smile when I moved to Yorkshire. I think I took a Buffy stance and said "What do you want?" on three occasions before I finally got it.

Date: Friday, July 29th, 2005 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ajshepherd.livejournal.com
Sounds nice.
One day, I shall live in the countryside again... and repeat adinfinitum

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