vindication!
Wednesday, December 10th, 2008 06:27 pmAt the age of 11 I was foiled: my parents wouldn't let me take the 11+, they thought it was elitist. (Fast-forward through 5 yrs of comprehensive hell.)
11+ on BBC website: how do you score?
"Top of the class!You've scored 15 out of 15."
(in, er, 5:03 minutes rather than 10. Not sure what this proves but I am pleased with my brain.)
11+ on BBC website: how do you score?
"Top of the class!You've scored 15 out of 15."
(in, er, 5:03 minutes rather than 10. Not sure what this proves but I am pleased with my brain.)
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Date: Wednesday, December 10th, 2008 06:43 pm (UTC)Proves nothing, of course -- no attempt to test humanities, language skills, sciences...
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Date: Wednesday, December 10th, 2008 06:45 pm (UTC)Nor did the 11+ when I took it.
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Date: Wednesday, December 10th, 2008 06:57 pm (UTC)That doesn't mean it proves nothing: it means it's a test of logical / reasoning ability rather than knowledge and facts. And one's knowledge, fact-retention, comprehension do change markedly over the course of a life.
I'm occasionally unnerved by the level of general knowledge expected of mid-C20 schoolchildren, but I wouldn't expect the 11+ to include questions that would probably be easier for an older age-group. Isn't it supposed to be about potential?
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Date: Wednesday, December 10th, 2008 07:02 pm (UTC)"Top of the class!You've scored 15 out of 15."
Ditto, but, I was surprised to find when I looked, in a somewhat faster time . . .
*modest cough*
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Date: Wednesday, December 10th, 2008 07:05 pm (UTC)Anyway, you are more Plus than I am, 11+ wise. :)
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Date: Wednesday, December 10th, 2008 07:07 pm (UTC)It's explicitly not intended to test what you already know, but rather your capacity for learning.
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Date: Wednesday, December 10th, 2008 07:15 pm (UTC)I am?
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Date: Wednesday, December 10th, 2008 07:16 pm (UTC)I want to do a different set of questions at work where I won't be distracted... but I think there's just the one set.
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Date: Wednesday, December 10th, 2008 07:20 pm (UTC)It's a form of IQ test and therefore specifically should not have knowledge-based questions.
Of course, one can argue until the cows come home about the value of IQ testing, which was vastly overstated during the 11 Plus's heyday; at the same time, though, such tests do undoubtedly offer some form of measure of the ability to reason.
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Date: Thursday, December 11th, 2008 08:52 am (UTC)I did take an 11+, but failed!