quick question

Thursday, December 1st, 2005 11:18 am
[personal profile] tamaranth
What is the smell that I associate with model railways and brand-new stereo components, and have just encountered on my shiny new PDA? Some sort of mineral oil, I presume, but I have no idea what.

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zotz
From: http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/month.200308/msg00218.html

di-iso-octyl phthalate is the only monomeric plasticizer ever used and accounts for some of the smell of new plastic

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gummitch.livejournal.com
It's probably the classic smell of hot electronics, which I've always assumed to be the out-gassing of some component of the circuit boards. It's also a danger sign that things are getting too hot, but I assume the battery of your PDA gets warm when charging, so it's probably just that.

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 11:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pigeonhed.livejournal.com
oh have you got a shiny new PDA perchance? :-)

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 11:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
It's not a new-plastic smell: more metallic, or flinty.

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 11:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
not a heating smell either: and was present from the moment of unwrapping!
Shall hope newness lasts 'til this evening, and you can see smell what I mean.

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
very shiny! very new!

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 11:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pigeonhed.livejournal.com
Wouldn't happen to be the item Amazon are 'dispatching shortly' via their time travel unit would it?

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lamentables.livejournal.com
Ooooh, sudden moment of nostalgia - I remember the smell of my train set so vividly. I think it's in the loft somewhere...

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 11:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purplecthulhu.livejournal.com
What sort of train set? If its the real steam variety then you may be smelling meths, which could also be used as a cleaner for the electronics.

This is, though, just a guess.

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 11:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brisingamen.livejournal.com
I suspect it's the same smell I associate with my brother's model railway, something to do with the transformer but god knows what. It was certainly distinctive, and remarkably evocative.

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 12:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stevegreen.livejournal.com
Didn't model railways used to produce ozone? Maybe it's a new feature: lots of techie fun, plus you get to replenish the Ozone Layer at the same time.

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 12:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stevegreen.livejournal.com
Great opening line: "Wanna sniff my PDA?"

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 12:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flickgc.livejournal.com
I'm amused by the fact that half the commenters are saying "Oh, yes, I know the smell you mean!" and the other half are offering explanations of completely different smells.

There's obviously some deep truth about the way that people's minds work involved.

I'm in the "Oh, yes, I know the smell" camp, so I can't help.

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
it is kind of ozone-y, now you mention it. But not quite.

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
that'd be it!

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 12:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
not the steam train variety, and not meths (which I think I'd recognise, though it's been a while). It does remind me of flints, as well -- both the sort you dig out of the earth, and the little cylinders as used in old-fashioned cigarette lighters.

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
It's a smell I've managed perfectly happily without a name for -- but now I know I don't have a name for it, it's bugging me!

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 12:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lamentables.livejournal.com
Mine was a fake steam train. You dripped a bit of a special oil into the funnel to create the steam effect.

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 01:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] latexiron.livejournal.com
Spaff. We're so excited by little silver shiny boxes and trains... well, you get the idea.

Perhaps someone else had your PDA before you?

Lick it and see what it tastes like.

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akicif.livejournal.com
No longer true - di-tertiary-butyl terephthalate is also used these days, I believe.

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
Lick it and see what it tastes like.

too busy scrubbing my brain ...

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autopope.livejournal.com
<geek>So what sort of PDA is it?</geek>

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
this one! (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000BKBHJM/202-1401160-4780630?%5Fencoding=UTF8)

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
and they've just dropped the price: bah ...

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
my friend's was wholly electric stock, I think ... it's a long time ago!

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autopope.livejournal.com
Hey, I've got a LifeDrive; how do you think I feel about the price cut?

I figure there are two or maybe three accessories you'll be after: some more storage, a case to keep the thing safe, and possibly a keyboard. Of those three, the one you're most likely to be ripped off for on the high street is memory. The solution is to go on eBay and search for "SD memory 1Gb": you'll find tons of folks waiting to sell you a 1Gb SD/MC card for £30. Whereas if you try to buy on in Dixons/PC World/Palm's website you'll end up paying in the range £60-120 depending on how stupid they think their customers are.

Speaking of Palm and their online store, they don't discount at all as a rule -- they're almost always more expensive than the other online retailers who sell Palm kit.

If you're after a keyboard or case, I'd recommend Expansys (http://www.expansys.co.uk/) -- fast, efficient, and they answer the phone if there's a problem.

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamaranth.livejournal.com
have keyboard, the old Palm wireless one, which seems to work without trouble. May think about extra memory at some point, but it's currently only 40% full, and that's going to drop as I tidy up apps that don't work any more! (The only one I'm upset about is TideTool: there is no longer, it seems, any freeware tide-calculator for the UK)

Date: Thursday, December 1st, 2005 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] major-clanger.livejournal.com
I've noticed that my nice new computer and nice new LCD monitor both smell of it, but that the packing boxes do so more strongly. Something in the plastic that electronics is often shipped in?

High-end paperbacks (the sort printed on semi-gloss paper) have a similar smell to me.

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